Tuesday, June 18, 2013

USADA 2013: Q1 Testing Statistics

Interesting numbers from the USADA for the first quarter of 2013 (ending March 31, 2013). The tests below were all out of competition controls. The USADA did a total of 29 tests in tennis for all of 2012.

8 Athletes Selected
19 Total Tests

Athlete Name
Test Count

Michael C Bryan
3

Robert C Bryan
3

Mardy S Fish
1

Liezel Huber
1

John Isner
3

Wayne Odesnik
4

Serena J Williams
2

Venus E Williams
2

42 comments:

  1. Didn't the USADA go after Armstrong ?

    They actually might go after Serena (unlike the ITF).

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  2. Usain Bolt teamate gets caught.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/usain-bolts-jamaica-teammate-veronica-campbellbrown-fails-drug-test-8660512.html

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    1. I didn't know men and females could be teamates on track and field

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    2. Just learning new things everyday

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  3. Victor Conte called out the Jamaican sprinters over a year ago. That's how long it takes to catch anyone.

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    1. So Victor Conte is this era's version of Jose Canseco?

      As much of a douchebag as Canseco is, we probably wouldn't know half of what happened in the Steroid Era of baseball if he hadn't blabbed. And he was pretty much dead on about everyone who was on the Mitchell Report.

      I think Conte is a sleaze as well, but you have to deal with sleazes to catch other sleazes. Cops and DAs know this as well as anyone.

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  4. A journalist actually does his job.


    http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/9397854/tennis-lackluster-drug-testing-next

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    1. Very good spot, Goldenage. What is often not recognised is the hapless nature of the ITF itself. This article points out the stark differences in power that the regulatory authorities in professional sport can wield. The power of MLB to investigate Bosch for example, compared to a very weak ITF. With regard to the professional game at least, the ITF has pretty much left the field to the self-interests of the ATP and WTA, both of whom have zero interest in seeing their stars exposed as cheats. What professional tennis could do with is a rich regulatory body headed up by a chief who stands on principle and can wield a big stick. The players' unions together with the four grand slam tournaments, princes all of their own kingdoms, will see to it that this does not happen.

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  5. So Serena who was only tested once by the USADA in 2008, none from 2009-2011, and once in 2012 has been tested twice so far already. Hopefully the USADA keeps it up. Should be triple that amount if we want to get serious (and this goes for all athletes, not just Serena).

    Wasn't one of the Bryan Brothers in danger of violating the three strikes rule a couple of years ago? That might be why they get tested a lot.

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    1. 2 OOC test per quarter is probably sufficient. I don't see a need for 6 per quarter or 24 OOC tests per year per athlete. Keep in mind that the ITF also conducts in competition and some (very few) OOC tests on its own. The ITF needs to step up it IC testing and include off days as this is when mircodosing of EPO would occur.

      The main thing is that 8 tests per year is enough to ensure that athletes will get caught by the 3 strikes rule when they miss tests. Previously, they were only being tested once a year (at most), so they could simply "accidentally" miss that test and they would never get 3 strikes in 18 months.

      The other problem is that it does not say whether these were blood or urine test. Test for HGH require a blood test. In addition, it appears that the current HGH test is invalid, or at least highly problematic, and any athlete caught using HGH can simply argue that the test is invalid. (http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada-statement-on-recent-cas-decision-on-hgh/).

      I wonder if there is any high ranked tennis player who recently had a prolonged absence ("provisional suspension") that was lifted by winning the argument that the HGH test was invalid.

      In any case, the WADA article cited above seems to indicate that HGH samples are only being collected currently to establish new baselines for the test and that until new "decision limits" are established, it appears that they are not testing for "positive" results because the limits for what is "positive" are being reset.

      I also question the wisdom of using samples from a population that is probably all using HGH to establish a baseline. Why on earth would the WADA use the HGH levels supplied by athletes that are suspected to be doping with HGH to establish baseline levels for HGH? Why would it announce to the athletes that it is going to do this and that their samples during this time will not result in a positive? Isn't this just telling all athletes to dope up with HGH so that the "baseline" for athletes will be so high that no one will ever test "positive?" Is there some reason that the HGH "baseline" cannot be taken from the general population like it is for every other hormone?

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  6. There are insults sessions going on other blogs about Serena and you guys are wasting your energy on this site??? Go join the party before it ends

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    1. I am not blaming Serena, but she shouldn't have put herself in that position.

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    2. "I am currently reaching out to the girl’s family to let her know that I am deeply sorry for what was written in the Rolling Stone article. What was written – what I supposedly said – is insensitive and hurtful, and I by no means would say or insinuate that she was at all to blame."

      So now she claims that's only what she "supposedly said" without stating what she DID say. I wonder why. Maybe this is the reason:

      "Reached by email, Rodrick (the writer of the article) says: 'The interview is on tape. Other than that, I’ll let the story speak for itself.'"

      Maybe her parents should have taught her that Rolling Stone interviewers sometimes tape their interviews.

      But, yeah, instead of bashing her for being a doper we should instead be bashing her for blaming a 16 year-old for getting raped.

      Ladies and gentleman, your 2013 French Open Ladies Champion Serena Williams.

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    3. Wow, while "There are insults sessions going on other blogs about Serena" you guy are wasting your energy on this site?
      Nothing like a self-overestimated retard trying to manipulate people, I'd say...

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    4. If Serena is getting any hate for her stupid, asinine comments, then so be it. She deserves every bit of criticism that comes her way.

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    5. Serena is not getting any hate for her comments. Her comments were righteous basic common sense and those who are criticizing her have fortunately or unfortunately found the only opportunity to get back at her for hammering her opponents on her way to the French Open title.

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    6. You just said Serena was getting insults at other sites and now you say she's not getting hate for her comments? Forget what you posted earlier?

      If she wasn't get heat for her comments she wouldn't have apologized so quickly and so vehemently.

      The only person who supports her is you. And tennis_fan/Boreman/Clark or whichever of your sockpuppet accounts you feel like trolling as today. It's good to know that you're a rape apologist like your "hero."

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    7. Do you think the fans criticizing her are differeny from the ones who insult her after every game on espn and other blogs? Serena apologized for advertisement purposes. She didn't do becse she thought she was wrong. The childish and irresponsible nature of part of the society forced her to apologize. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. It is quite surprising that those who think Serena should have never lost control over repeated targeted offenses, think that is ok for a 16 years old to be drunk while partying with boys. Weren't the boys drinking as well? But apparently they will be the only ones paying the price for their actions. Yes they should be punished. But underage girls are not mental handicaps. They should be held accountable for their actions as well. This can be understood by real men and women; not men by name or appearance

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    8. I fail to see how a teenage girl getting drunk is an invitation to be raped. Those two crimes are not equal. And anyone who thinks they are is an idiot and obviously was never a stupid teenager. Rape is a criminal and moral offence. Getting drunk under age is just stupid. And Serena is stupid too. I hope her sponsors dump her. She deserves it.

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    9. 16 years is a lot. I matured very early and being drunk at 16 is not just stupid. It shows a lack of education. Women who want to be respected shall behave appriopritely. Drunk women put men in a delicate situation. I only fell sorry for
      Women who dress properly and are threatened and raped. I never feel sorry for those who tease men all day long and complain about sexual harassement and rape. But again, in a society where prostitutes are idolized, I am not surprised that these kind of behavior are condoned

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    10. "Drunk women put men in a delicate situation."

      You're a pig.

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    11. Lol... By their actions after being drunk. Not for being drunk. Knowing that anyhing that happens afterwards is legally considered a rape whenever women feel it is the case eventhough they don't remember anything abour it.

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    12. He's not merely a pig, Lopi, - he's a sick pig.

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  7. I respect Serena for all she represents. She is an honest and brave woman.

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    1. For Serena, it is ok for her to be drunk in party. No one will be brave enough to even get close to her. Those muscles! Federer will be knocked out instantly by one single backhand.

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    2. You bet. She is a strong black woman

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    3. Was she drunk when she stepped on broken glass and cut the top of her foot which then led to a life threatening ailment?

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    4. She is honest and brave when drunk, otherwise she has her panic room.

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    5. waiting for the 17th to make people cry all over the internet.
      As a reminder, 16 years drunk and their advocates are invited as well

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    7. Arrogant,nouvelle riche, parvenue, racist, doped,no class at all,in one word: Serena Williams at her best.

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  8. She is surely brave, but she is, just as surely, not honest... And you are, even more surely, neither brave nor honest.

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  9. The reporting on these stats is very misleading and irresponsible. You are talking about pro tennis players who are regularly tested by the ATP and WTA under WADA-approved programs. Roger Federer says he was tested 9 times last year. So that's who is also testing the US players. USADA would only test for Davis Cup, Fed Cup and the Olympics. So they're testing like 8-10 athletes for very infrequent competitions, who are already tested regularly elsewhere. You can not compare that to hundreds of track and field athletes who are primarily tested by USADA and competing in national meets all year round!

    If you want to be fair, you need to account for how many different athletes you're talking about and how much testing their getting elsewhere (and don't forget NCAA testing)

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    1. I can only point out that the tests were all "out of competition." This means that they are not part of Davis Cup, Fed Cup, or the Olympics because all of those are competitions.

      Also, the USADA is a "WADA-approved program."

      Roger Federer would also be subject to his own national testing association --he being Swiss, not an American. It is not clear who tested Federer 9 times and whether the number included any in competition testing.

      USADA gets its list of athletes from the USTA. So presumably, the "pool" of athletes is anyone who plays in a USTA tournament. From that "pool" the "top" athletes are selected, at the recommendation of the USTA, There does not appear to be any limit on which althetes the USTA can include on the list. (See http://www.usada.org/tdp/ for description of the program). Only "top" athletes in each sport are subject to out of competition testing. This is because they have to fill out a "whereabouts" form which tells the USADA where they will be each day so that random tests can be conducted.

      The numbers for "Track and Field" include a variety of sports and it is not clear exactly what it includes but pretty much any type of running, including marathon, as well as the "field" events. There were 496 tests done in Track and Field for Q1, 2013. I don't know who is "comparing" these numbers to tennis as no one on this page even mentioned Track and Filed other than you and certainly no one is stating that professional American tennis players should be tested 496 times a quarter -- which would amount to a test every couple days per athlete.

      In any case, if "reporting on these stats is very misleading and irresponsible," you should write the USADA and try to get them to stop reporting them. This site did not "report" anything. It simply stated that USADA had reported the numbers and cut and paste the "report" for 2013.

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    2. Woody,

      Please specify what is misleading about what I have presented from the USADA's testing statistics for tennis the 1st quarter for 2013.

      I'd note that you state that these players are "regularly tested by the ATP and WTA." The ATP and WTA do not conduct testing at all. The ITF conducts testing for all of pro tennis. And what does "regularly tested" mean?

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  10. Has Werner Francke looked at tennis? I came across his name when reading about Ullrichs' late confessions

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  11. Off Topic, but: "With my kness in this condition, it´s a challenge for me to play on grass at Wimbledon". Guess who?

    http://sport.es/es/noticias/wimbledon/rafa-nadal-con-rodilla-asi-reto-para-jugar-hierba-2431851

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    1. Just eat your Senzu beans, Rafa! Vamos!

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  12. http://thelasttenminutes.blogspot.ca/2013/06/youre-naive-if-you-think-lance-is-only.html#!/2013/06/youre-naive-if-you-think-lance-is-only.html

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  13. Fewer doping tests in tennis than in curling...

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/Actualites/Moins-de-controles-qu-en-curling/379950

    My translation:
    According to a USADA report, tennis was one of the sports with the fewest anti-doping tests between January 1 and March 31. With 19 (all out of competition) of 1919 tests, tennis has even fewer tests than curling (35 tests) and luge (25). Athletics had the most tests, 496 (of which 104 in competition), followed by cycling with 275 tests (26 in competition).


    «If you only do two tests, when 100 are necessary, it will not work, said Don Catlin, head of the world anti-doping agency. If you would test the top 100 players in the world 5 times a year, you would get a good picture, but they don't want it in tennis.» After the recent revelations concerning Lance Armstrong, who was stripped of his 7 TdF victories, Andy Murray and Roger Federer expressed their concern about the lack of test in their sport. Novak Djokovic, world number 1, has also requested more blood tests. Rafael Nadal did as well.

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    1. As pointed out above, comparisons to other sports by raw numbers are irrelevant and end up making the person comparing them look ignorant. Curling tested 33 athletes 35 times -- or just 1 test per quarter per athlete. Tennis tested 8 athletes 19 times or 2.4 tests per quarter -- about once a month. Curling performed 11 OOC tests, Tennis 19. The ITF performs the IC testing for these athletes as well and could conduct its own OOC tests if it wished -- we have to wait until next year to get the numbers.

      In any case, there is no need to simply cite articles that do nothing more than recite bland statistics that anyone can read -- just sort the list by Q1 total and look at every sport with more tests then tennis -- there are 18 sports with more tests than tennis: Track & Field, Cycling, Skiing & Snowboarding, Triathlon, Swimming, Speedskating, Bobsled & Skeleton, Weightlifting, Taekwondo, Curling, Rugby, Boxing (Professional), Luge, Figure Skating, Ice Hockey, Gymnastics, Wrestling, and Rowing.

      Ok, now we can stop listing the sports that have more tests than tennis -- I already got them all.

      Instead, you might focus on the "interesting" things in the statistics -- like Tennis had 4 OOC tests Q1 last year and 19 Q1 this year. Tennis had 29 total OOC tests for all of 2012 and already has 19 for this year. Maybe this means something -- maybe it doesn't.

      Also, there is a difference between the individual athletes test history found here (http://www.usada.org/athlete-test-history). And the summary found here: http://www.usada.org/sport-testing-numbers-2012

      Note for Tennis it shows 17 athletes Selected, 27 Total Tests on the first page for 2012, but then shows 29 Total tests for Tennis on the second page. Are the two "missing tests" tests that were missed by players? Or just the USADA can't add up numbers? (Note that USADA states that the individual numbers are not "accurate" but fails to say why they are not "accurate.")

      Serena Williams was tested once in 2012, but twice already this year.

      Bob and Mike Bryan seem to be tested a lot -- 3 times so far this year, 3 times in 2012.

      Sloane Stephens tested once in 2011, once 2012. Nothing so far this year. 0 OOC tests from the ITF in 2012 or 2011.

      Also, as previously noted numerous times, the USADA is only part of tennis testing. There is also the ITF -- as laughable as it is. However, there are also some "interesting" things in comparing the ITF testing to the USADA testing for Tennis.

      The ITF tested the following American players OOC in 2012. Blake, Bryan Brothers (man, these guys get tested a lot), Fish, Huber, Isner, Robert Kendrick (who is this guy?), Vania King (basically admitted she has a TUE for EPO), Mattek-Sands, McHale (she has a big serve, better test her), Odesnik (the fact he tests negative proves the tests don't work), Querrey (this guy really does need a TUE for testosterone), Roddick (if he was doping, he wouldn't retire), Nick Taylor (who?), David Wagner (going after all these big names), Venus and Serena Williams (how many TUEs does Venus have for Sjogrens?), and Donald Young.

      The USADA tested nearly the same athletes in 2012 -- 17 in all but they also got Jamie Hampton, Ryan Harrison, Mike Russell, and a couple others. Both organizations target the Bryan brothers.

      In any case maybe some of the above will give us something to talk about rather than just "X sport had more tests than Tennis."

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