Thursday, February 5, 2015

Sergio Giorgi

 Camila Giorgi's father has some things to say:
"Doping in tennis exists. Some athletes have doctors who are able to cover them up, but it's easy to understand that it is there just looking at some WTA players' muscles or seeing the athletic capacity of some other players on the ATP tour. You see those things and you do understand that there is something going on. Controls are worthless. I also believe that athletes should be left the chance to dope if they want..."

25 comments:

  1. Far Better the following interview:

    "How much and what type of doping has a bigger impact in a technical sport like tennis?

    First of all, tennis is not a sport only technical. Matches take place at very high speed of movement. You need power on their shots and a lot of resistance. You can not define a sport only technical, but also physical, a lot more than 20 years ago. In a context like this, doping by testosterone and anabolic steroids is very effective. "

    by Professor Sandro Donati, Wada consultant, trainer and author of "The sport of doping. Who suffers, who fights "


    Full interview in Italian language on:

    http://www.spaziotennis.com/2013/11/sandro-donati-il-tennis-e-il-doping

    Best wishes.

    Fabrice, greetings from Italy.

    1PS his book (in Italian language) which is an atomic bomb:

    http://www.ibs.it/code/9788865790335/donati-alessandro/sport-del-doping.html

    2PS to translate from Italian into English, use Google Translate

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  2. How can it be far better to listen to a subjective obvious comment than assertive statements from an ex pro and a players father that top players are on peds, surely this is what we want to hear to enable the journalists with no balls to ask proper questions now?

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  4. Premise.

    Who is Professor Sandro Donati:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandro_Donati


    Here are two articles in which Professor Sandro Donati says something very interesting:

    1) Doping and athletic, Alessandro Donati: "No surprise"

    http://www.panorama.it/sport/altri-sport/atletica-doping-powell-gay/

    2) The David of clean sport. Thirty years against Goliath doping

    http://www.repubblica.it/rubriche/la-storia/2012/11/12/news/libro_donati_doping_sport-46448789/

    So given the fact that Professor Sandro Donati is an international authority on the subject of the fight against doping in sports and above all the fact that he has been fighting doping in sports for over thirty years, a question arises for the author of this fantastic blog!

    Question:

    why not get in touch with Professor Sandro Donati to interview him on doping in tennis on the basis also of the excellent work done in this blog?

    If the interview goes well and you like each other, you could even develop an effective and innovative platform against doping in tennis to submit publicly to the International Tennis Federation, the ATP and WTA, and once it is ignored or rejected, you will have proved to everyone that the "emperor has no clothes and sucks" !!!!

    Best Regards.

    Fabrice, greetings from Italy.

    PS to translate the content of the two articles from Italian into English, use Google Translate.

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    1. I can't speak for this blog, but I can give plenty of good reasons not to waste the time. First, "fighting doping" is very complicated. There are numerous drugs and techniques that are not detectible. The ABP is essentially worthless and that has taken numerous scientists years to develop. It is very unlikely that any significant new anti-doping proposals would come up other than "more tests." In addition, the glaringly obvious holes in the existing anti-doping program (3 missed tests, able to skip tests if approved by the tournament director, panic rooms, etc.) are not really "new" issues. Pretty sure this blog has talked about these issues numerous times.

      Second, even if you came up with a better way, presenting anti-doping proposals to the ITF would be pearls before swines. The ITF/ATP/WTA has no interest in stopping doping.

      I view the best objective of this blog as not "stopping doping," but stopping the ignorance around doping. That is, when you have "not normal" athletes, there should be nothing wrong with questioning whether they are doping. (Spoiler alert: They are.). People should understand that there are limits to human performance and there are ways to push those limits beyond normal performance. When we see these "not normal" results, we should think twice about putting their picture on a Wheaties box or naming an anti-cancer foundation after them.

      In this last regard, I see this blog as a success, even if on a limited basis.

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    2. Hi M Tracy,

      1) as far as "Second, even if you came up with a better way, presenting anti-doping proposals to the ITF would be pearls before swines. The ITF/ATP/WTA has no interest in stopping doping."

      Yes, you are basically right but to have the definitive smoking gun, it would be far better to pillory them once for ever and one of the best way to make it could be what I've said in my second post!!

      2) As far as "It is very unlikely that any significant new anti-doping proposals would come up other than "more tests."

      The real problem is that a very effective new anti-doping system would cost much more money, hence, it' isn't only a problem of "more tests" or "fewer and deeper tests" and this kind of problem can be solved very easily because professional tennis is a very rich sport and as a consequence there are different obvious ways to find additional financial resources for this puropose!!

      And the last thing, man went on the moon in 1969, hence in 2015 to solve very well the plague of doping in professional sports is just a matter of political will !!

      Nothing else and nothing more!!

      Best regards.

      Fab



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  5. Sara Errani (who consulted with Dr Del Moral), responds to Sergio Giorgi's comments

    "“Legalizzare il doping? Assolutamente no, squalificherei a vita chi fa uso di queste sostanze: è la soluzione migliore per fermarlo, non basta lo stop di uno o due anni”.

    "Legalizing doping? Absolutely not, Life long disqualification for those who make use of these substances is the best way to stop it, do not just stop at one or two years."

    http://www.ubitennis.com/blog/2015/02/07/sara-errani-risponde-papa-giorgi-squalifica-vita-per-chi-fa-uso-di-doping/

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    1. But Sarah, why do we need to "stop it" if it doesn't even exist in the first place? Probably the best way to "stop it" is to not take the "Flintstones" vitamins the Dr. Del Moral was giving you.

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  6. http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Sara-Errani-Responds-to-Sergio-Giorgi-A-Good-Solution-to-Doping-Lifelong-Banning--articolo22372.html

    Errani says dopers should be banned for life. Bit rich coming from her, she got away with doping for years, even after her relationship with Armstrong's doctor was leaked.

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  7. She must have scaled back. She has hardly done anything since her late career "Breakthrough" in 2011

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    1. Even in doubles, her and her doping mate Vinci have gone from undisputed no.1s to losing to unseeded players in slams.

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    2. may the biological passport is actually having an effect.

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  8. Unfortunately Giorgi's dad is considered to be a bit of a nutcase, so the usual suspects will use that as a reason to ignore his views.

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    1. maybe, but facts about doping are facts

      look at UFC & MMA Silva,Jones,Diaz,Lombard all in last couple months.. ..

      even shady organizations like UFC are cleaner than ATP & WTA

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  9. Speaking of dopers....seen footage of a doubles match at a minor tournament in Maui where Odesnik and his partner did an obvious tank job. It was so bad the umpire refused to shake he and his partners hand at the end of the match
    Seriously...why is this guy still on the tour??

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    1. Fun fact, he's back on tour because he testified that Daniel Kollerer told him that he could help fix matches (Kollerer was banned for life!) so his suspension for HGH was shortened.
      http://espn.go.com/tennis/wimbledon13/story/_/id/9427242/wimbledon-questions-surround-wayne-odesnik
      In other news Bracciali and Starace were suspended AGAIN for fixing: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/feb/12/italian-tennis-players-suspended-match-fixing-allegations

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  10. Lance fined $10M, after losing case vs. SCA Promotions. The evils of doping can come home to roost..........

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/disgraced-cyclist-lance-armstrong-fined-10m-for-doping-lies-30996770.html

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  11. Bosch agrees to talk to USADA....... Wonder if he has any tennis stories to tell?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/anthony-bosch-agrees-talk-doping-usada-officials-article-1.2117979

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  12. Here is a recent book about doping in English language by Professor Sandro Donati:


    The Sports Doping Market: Understanding Supply and Demand, and the Challenges of Their Control Hardcover – September 24, 2013
    by Letizia Paoli (Author), Alessandro Donati (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Sports-Doping-Market-Understanding/dp/1461482402

    Best regards.

    Fabrice

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  13. Breaking News: Andrea Petkovic on doping!!

    It’s true that we almost never answer political questions. I believe the more professional a sport is organized, the less the players are saying. We’re always indoctrinated: don’t say anything about political topics,DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DOPING, all you can achieve with that is to put yourself offside.
    Isn’t it cowardly to not use the big influence. . . you have as a top athlete in this direction?
    Yes, it’s cowardly—and it’s also something else: it’s convenient. There’s always pro and contra and that’s why for every political statement you’ll get trouble and reactions which you then have to engage. And, for me, I don’t play well when I have trouble with someone.....


    https://tennistranslations.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/interview-with-andrea-petkovic-pre-fed-cup/


    extracted from:
    https://twitter.com/andreapetkovic

    Best Regards.

    Fabrice.

    PS in other words, "Be Silent and Soothe, Celebrate and Deny" by Professor Sandro Donati, extracted from his book, " The Sport of Doping. Who Suffers, Who Fights".

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