Wednesday, April 1, 2015

Big Fish

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  1. Apparently, tennis is the only major sport where only the lower tier players need to cheat...

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  2. Right? In other news. .after a curious year and half year absence from the court Tipsaravic is back in action. Tipsy went dark not long adapter the dr. Del moral tennis Val stuff broke.

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    1. Does he still look like this?:
      http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/2011/05/knocking-me-out-with-those-serbian.html

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  3. Serena Willliams.
    YTD Stats:
    18-0
    2 Titles (Australian Open & Miami)

    Still going on strong.

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    1. And she won Miami with a(n) (alleged) knee "injury." This after she pulled out of the Indian Wells semis and said she wasn't sure she'd be able to play Miami. Of course no one questions how her knee magically healed itself in two weeks time.

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  4. ITF suspends low-ranked Brazilian for 2 years for doping

    LONDON (AP) The International Tennis Federation says that a 20-year-old Brazilian ranked outside the top 1,000 has been suspended for two years after failing a doping test.

    The ITF posted its decision online Wednesday in the case of Marcela Pereira Alves Valle, saying she tested positive for the stimulant ...

    http://www.foxsports.com/tennis/story/itf-suspends-low-ranked-brazilian-for-2-years-for-doping-040115

    They have caught a teeny tiny fish in a lake of sharks!!

    In other words, nothing new under the sun, just another fake act!!

    Best regards.

    Fabrice

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  5. Hmm… back-to-back masters titles for the Djoker, the iron man of tennis standing strong as another opponent wilts in the deciding set. This is beginning to have all the hallmarks of 2011 re-run….

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    1. I don't know about this final, but the IW one, he clearly opted to tire the opponent. Federer ended running more than Djokovic and using constantly a more tiring one-handed backhand.

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    1. He also exhibited a classic dose of roid-rage when he shouted in the face of a ball kid at the end of the second set. Classy guy.

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  7. Djokovic went from being a sickly-looking asthma stricken choker to an even more sickly-looking undefatigable defender in the span of a gluten intolerance episode. Is it me or is tennis chock-full of health-challenged world-class athletes? Imagine if on top of their tennis talents they would have received the gift of good health... (lol)

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    1. I can't remember the numbers but Djokovic used to retire all the time early in his career - I think he's one of the few guys to retire in a match in all 4 Slams. Now he can go 5-6 hours no problem. Once again, no one asks any hard questions about his improved fitness in such a rapid amount of time. He went from sucking wind in the 2010 final against Nadal to being able to go toe-to-toe with him in less than a year's time.

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    2. I think it's fair to assume his incredible lack of fitness pre 2011 *was* due to pretty severe gluten sensitivity. However, his incredible increase in fitness was probably due to more than just avoiding gluten and sitting in an egg.

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  8. I have read a fair whack of what has been written on the Armstrong saga. I am also reasonably well across the doping tennis situation.

    Coming from a psychology background I just can't shake the similarities between Armstrong and Djokovic's behaviour.

    In Armstrong's case being a doper made it extremely difficult for him to attack those caught doping (see extensive examples of Armstrong deflecting doping questions or the memorable example of his exchange at the Tour of California in which Paul Kimmage asks him why he loves dopers!!)

    Djokovic's insipid response to Ben Rothenberg's question at the Miami Open regarding Wayne Odesnik's ban is intriguing at best for the world number 1 - to quote him- "if that's true. I don't know. I cannot judge him if maybe he has an appeal or not"

    If you are a clean athlete why on earth would you choose to associate with one of the sport's few KNOWN dopers when by all reports he was shunned/ostracised by the rest of tour. This does not even take into account his out of proportion response to Troicki's banning.

    Djokovic, like Armstrong associates with dopers.

    Why would there be such a huge disparity between Djokovic and Murray in the final set of the miami final (and other matches e.g. US Open 2014, Aus Open 2015) when Murray is generally seen as one of the hardest trainers on the tour. It makes no sense. Or about as much sense as Djokovic responding to a 5 hr epic in the SF in Aus in 2012 with a win in a 6hr match against Rafa. By all reports Murray could barely walk for days after.

    I know this site has been incredibly suspicious of Murray in the past due to his changes in musculature and comments on the 'being a "dobber" and drug testing being annoying. But in the interests of fairness have a look at his press conference interview transcripts post the Armstrong scandal. He was woken up to his naivete and has been one of the most vocal supporters of drug testing since (alongside Fed). His choice to be extremely vocal in his comments and display an increasing interest in rigorous testing don't fit with someone who dopes - Djokovic's lukewarm responses, and advocacy for dopers at times, is.

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    1. Seems like yesterday when Murray would continually complain about drug testing. At least he’s stopped doing it now, perhaps thanks to the Armstrong debacle or he finally realized that complaining about drug testing is not a good look.

      But overall I agree with you. In addition to being an obvious user to PEDs Djokovic is clearly a sympathiser as well, just like Nadal and Armstrong. These guys come out and say they all for drug testing and a clean sport yet they associate with dopers (Odesnik, Troicki, Contador) and even go as far to defend them when they are dealt harsh sentences for doping which they deserved. No consistency in their actions at all, Lamentable!

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    2. He wasn't to cover his bases because he doesn't want to have egg on his face after Odesnik successfully appeals his sentence.

      You would get this if you weren't an android.

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  9. Also the fact that Ben Rothenberg felt the need to ask the question speaks volumes about where his (probably many other more gutless journalists') views lie

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  10. @ tennisrocks - I am in full agreement with everything you say. It is nothing I haven't also said many times. The only thing that the rank and file tennis fans can do, is to keep chipping away at the subject. I came to your comments via another site, where I have also posted on this subject. Keep at it.

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    1. I agree. We rank and file fans can provide a steady stream of comments to online articles written by tennis columnists who regularly miss the boat. It might help to develop 5 Top Talking Points, a condensed intro to what gets discussed here, and use that along with a link to this site when we respond. SnR's recent "dialogue" with Jon Wertheim was a step in that direction.

      For example, in England there's been a lot of moaning about how Andy Murray has to train even harder if he's ever to beat Djokovic. None of the comments after these two articles mentions the possibility that Djokovic dopes. "Educational feedback" from THASP readers can at least improve the odds that sooner or later, a columnist will begin to look outside the box.

      http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/06/the-clay-season-may-be-a-short-term-fix-for-rafael-nadals-career-slum

      http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/05/andy-murray-novak-djokovic-miami-open-final

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    2. Considering Murray's build and constant running, I'm shocked you guys don't see Murray as a doper too.

      Come on.

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    3. I notice that on many of the tennis websites, any mention of doping is automatically deleted. Or the poster is labeled a "hater." The only way the subject will come out from under the table is if one of the big names is caught. And I think we have to come to terms with the fact that it may never happen.

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    4. @ Unknown - I can only repeat what I have said elsewhere. If Murray is the doper that many on here seem to think he might be, then he is pretty rubbish at it. In fact if I might be so bold as to say. Compared with Nadal, Djokovic and dare I say it Federer in terms of trophy haul his doping performance is pathetic. If you suspect Murray, then I don't see how Federer can escape suspicion. The Grand Old Man of Tennis - rubbish 2013, then reaching the Wimbledon final in 2014?

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    5. By your logic, Odesnik must be clean.

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    6. Cynic, don't mean to disrespect but doping is not only used by the top 1 and 2 players. If that'd be the case, the ITF would be right. There's no problem in tennis.
      Doping is endemic, it may be even necessary to compete depending o the player's style. Just see the performances of likes of Hewitt, Davydenko... They practically dissapeared. Some even retired to play in less demanding tours (Roddick...) with visible physical changes. Then the long dissappearance of several top 100 players: Delpo, Almagro, Stepanek, Tsonga...

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    7. @ Unknown - you haven't disrespected. I freely admit to being a Murray supporter, and for various reasons explained elsewhere on this site I think he is clean. I intensely dislike Federer, but also think he is clean. I might well be wrong on both counts. What I am certain of is there is a doping problem in tennis. I can't see how The acts of physical endurance demonstrated by Djokovic can have been achieved by clean methods. Ditto Nadal on the on running saga of his knees, which stinks to high heaven to me. After the Spanish blood bag saga I don't trust any Spanish player, so Ferrer is high on my list as well. I hope Murray is clean, but I can understand why people are suspicious of him.

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  12. I can't think of many ridiculous examples of Murray recovering, or showing the endurance of a couple of the other top guys.
    e.g. no back to back wins like rafa in AO 2010 or Novak 2012.
    He has a lot of ups and downs, never really a mind blowing run of tournament wins. Some might say he is either clean or on much less effective stuff!!

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  13. I can't think of many ridiculous examples of Murray recovering, or showing the endurance of a couple of the other top guys.
    e.g. no back to back wins like rafa in AO 2010 or Novak 2012.
    He has a lot of ups and downs, never really a mind blowing run of tournament wins. Some might say he is either clean or on much less effective stuff!!

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  14. Personally I believe Nadal, Williams, Djoker are dopers. I think Errani used to be too.
    I can't see Stosur, Lisicki, Murray, Federer as dopers. Stosur and Lisicki are so up and down through their careers.. I find it impossible to believe them as cheats.

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