Tuesday, July 14, 2015

More from Frum

This is going viral...

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  1. I thought this would blow over like everything else, but maybe thre is a bit of an Emperor Has No Clothes moment out of this. No one of public note has ever said it out loud before. He didn't fully back down, either. And Wolf Blitzer has watched the Washington Castles... What a tool.

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  2. I think Gamergate has a lot to do with this.

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  3. en, in addition to the blog archive menu and search bar disappearing, some pages seem to have gone too. All I'm getting is "Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist."

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    And after Armstrong and Jones I can't believe people are still using the defence of "Well, she's never tested positive". They need to come to this blog and read all about "The case against Tennis"

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    1. It's sad, but innocent until proven guilty just doesn't really cut it anymore. It has already been proven how easy it is to dope in other sports with testing much more rigorous than what we see in tennis. I like many, have suspicions about quite a few players, but it doesn't really have to about exposing anybody (we could all be wrong, right?!). I just want to see a considerable effort made by the ITF to TRY to keep the sport clean. Right now tennis testing is rather absurd and quite frankly a dopers dream.

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    2. I hate when people play the "innocent till proven guilty" card, implying that you can't even voice suspicion without proof. It's true you can't be 'convicted' without proof in a court of law, but the entire judicial system is based on targeting potential wrongdoers based on reasonable suspicion. Without it, no one would ever even get to court to have their innocence established, or their guilt proven.

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    3. @arcus,

      That's a fabulous bit of truth right there.

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    4. Arcus,
      i just didn't see that serious determination when Fed was accused of gambling. I am pretty sure it would have been part of the history book if Serena was involved in gambling.
      if Serena's rival was stabbed, I am pretty sure everyone would be saying she was behind it.
      What do you think these statements will change? The doping committee is the one that can do something about doping. Empty allegations can only serve to tarnish Serena's reputations and that is the issue.

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    6. Agree with DanM, Arcus spitting truth left and right.

      @UntitledK9
      Whenever I tell people that Armstrong, Jones, Bonds, Clemens, etc never failed a test yet we all KNOW (and they've admitted) that they juiced, people either have nothing to say or just change the subject. The current drug tests are a snap to pass (if they even test in the first place)

      @Dyne:
      That's what gets me the most. Tennis doesn't even try to have a clean sport.Tennis has just basically thrown up their hands and allowed people to dope. They don't care as long as they (the executives) get paid.

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    7. Can we stop propogating this myth that Armstrong didn't test positive? He made that up FFS. Serena hasn't tested positive because she hardly gets tessted. Tennis is the most corrupt sport in the world.

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    8. We really don't know whether she has never failed a test.

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    9. If she tested positive and the results were hidden, what are the complaints about? Do you think these claims would change the mind of the organizations in charge of testing?

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  4. Why don't you guys accuse yourself of doping since you're recklessly looking for someone to accuse

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    1. I recklessly accuse Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds and Arnold Schwarzenegger. LiveStrong.

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    2. And I recklessly accuse Tiger Woods.

      This just in from the British Open, as published here -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/theopen/11745293/The-Open-2015-Tiger-Woods-continues-his-fall-from-the-greatest-height.html

      Money quote: Rarely in the annals of sport has a great athlete fallen so far, so fast.

      THASP, good to see you back posting here.

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    3. So Tiger Woods doesn't know how to dope anymore or his billion is not enough for him to purchase anything anymore.

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  5. I haven't seen this but looking at the tweet i guess by the responses nothing was really discussed or clarified as to David Frum's tweets.
    This could have been a platform for an actual discussion not just on Serena but on a wider spectrum. I mean can anyone look at Sam Stosur before and after and tell me steroids aren't a wide spread issue in tennis. Or indeed on Serena how she can have a entirely improved performance as 34 yr old than a 33 yr old.
    Another thing i wonder on the WTA side are "the stars" under pressure and the establishment have no problem turning a blind eye if they are getting the results. I mean WTA "the stars" are always coming out and saying "how competitive" , "how much more interesting", "how their worth the money" like their selling WTA. When if you look at the tournaments (where the ATP isn't also involved) the seats are mostly empty. Also how they lost $88m in 2012 when Sony Ericisson pulled their sponsorship. Is the WTA in trouble? is this what's really going on underneath?

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    1. The WTA doesn't have many stars. Most of them are ugly you know whats. Those that do possess a sprinkle of stardust get away with blue murder, including the use of shouting and screaming as an intimidation tactic during matchplay.

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    2. I don't think the beauty of the players is the primary issue (do you *seriously* think the likes of Sharapova, Ivanovic, Wozniaki, Kvitova, Radwanska are driving people away because of their looks?), I think it's the fact that one woman is winning pretty much every tournament, and no one has emerged as a consistent number 2. That's great for Serena fans but likely makes everyone else's eyes glaze over. There's also not as much variety in the women's game as there used to be, whereas the men are at least throwing in a serve-and-volley every now and then (especially Federer). I'm sure the screaming doesn't help, but how bad were the ratings during the heyday of Graf vs. Seles? Tennis is better when there are rivalries, and the women's game hasn't had any since Henin retired.

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    3. I don't think it's aesthetic at all, more to do with the WTA concentrating on marketing rather than the game. Not concentrating on setting themselves aside from the Men's games and not to stay as it's supporting act.

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    4. I always wonder if the majority of the people knows that if you work out, you will grow muscles. It seems to me that the majority complaining about players muscles don't play any sports at all. That would be the most logical explanation. But again, I am not white but I know it doesn't take much for the majority of blacks to develop a lot of muscles.

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    5. Eric Ed, you come out with the most unimaginable shite. (sorry everyone, i didn't know how to put that elegantly).

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    7. Hit the weight room and you will see results

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    8. "(do you *seriously* think the likes of Sharapova, Ivanovic, Wozniaki, Kvitova, Radwanska are driving people away because of their looks?)"

      This guy believes that Radwanska and Kvitova are hot. lmfao

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    9. I can't believe it. I've been posting here for I don't know how many months, and this is the first time I've been Hass'd. It's genuinely an honor.

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  6. Just finish reading Roland Martin tweet on David Frum "accusations" and the responses...Wow! a lot of Eric Ed's out there, who have made the issue not about doping but about ethnicity.

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    1. Love is blind, sometimes..

      Our favorite cancer survivor was teflon with the press and fans till the truth emerged...

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    2. We didn't see them complain about the likes of Michael Phelps that the Chinese tested so much, he could barely sleep. The issue is also the timing. Similarly to Barry Bonds when records were within reach, they noticed the all time records are within reach as well so they want to try their best.
      Since Serena has been playing, has anything really changed about her? Why now? Many people hoped Henin and Kim will stop Serena but they all failed miserably. Now they realized the pictures concerned ladies who are scared of muscles for fear of not looking feminine enough can't do anything to Serena. So they resort to accusations as a last resort.
      If we had the opposite situation where white females build up while black females refuse to do so for fear of not looking feminine, the world will be singing a completely different tone. You will hear lunatic, lazy, and all kind of qualifiers to describe that behavior.
      Once Serena retires, I am done with the women tennis because these selfies oriented losers can only waste people time.
      With all Serena has accomplished, she is not even athlete of the year. They gave the award to Rousey who participates in an activity most people don't even classify as a sport discipline per say.

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    4. My criticism wasn't directed at you guys but towards the guy Frum who all of a sudden seems very interested in doping related matters

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    5. My criticism wasn't directed at you guys but towards the guy Frum who all of a sudden seems very interested in doping related matters

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  7. The Klishcko brothers said they will never fight each other and everybody understood. Young Williams had difficulty playing each other and people are saying that is the reason they dislike them. Uuuhhhhhhhh.

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  8. A little history will help
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/15/black-people-win-respect-serena-williams

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    1. I am not the one who wrote it by the way

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  9. I think that whatever this Frum is saying, it's not newsworthy. He is just speculating, but based on no facts. Besides, he only seems willing to talk about about some technicalities of his twitter account. He should not talk about this at all, if all he's got is some suspicions based on info that anyone can read on the internet, like on this website. I want to see journalists dig deep in this matter. Go find the young dope testing lab guy, who have seen the results, and seen his superiors sweep it under the carpet, and feels bad it. He might be able to provide you with the true test results that you are looking for. Then you can write the big headlines in the papers about it, and talk on TV. Before you have the numbers, it's pointless to talk. In my opinion.

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  10. I don't know this David Frum, but still it's nice to see someone have the balls to mention the panic room incident on live TV. What I don't get is why haven't the WTA or Serena come out and said anything to discourage these remarks? When Armstrong was (rightly) accused, he came out all guns blazing and threatening to sue everyone. Serena will be the first player in their 40s to win a singles slam and we'll still get McEnroe, Davenport et al fawning about how 'unprecedented' and 'miraculous' it all is.

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  11. Serena has a lot of honor and pride and that is why she hasn't done so. I wouldn't have done it either.

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  12. Serena Williams withdraws after one match in Bastad, Sweden due to elbow injury,

    "I felt it a little bit in my match yesterday, and then it got better, but then this morning I really couldn't hit serves, and if I'm not able to hit serves that could definitely be a problem. So I talked to my coach about it and we were like, 'Let's see what the doctor says, and see what everyone else says, and go from there.' The main thing is that we don't want it to get worse, we obviously want it to heal."

    Williams is scheduled to return to action for her beloved summer hardcourt season, currently entered in Stanford, Toronto and Cincinnati before going for her fifth Grand Slam title in a row in New York.

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    1. BTW - Extract from the orginal article on> http://www.wtatennis.com/news/article/4867977/title/injured-serena-withdraws-from-bastad

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  13. Serena has a lot of honor and pride and that is why she hasn't done so. I wouldn't have done it either.

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  16. Tennis vs. Waterpolo
    In waterpolo, you can get a four year ban for avoiding a test. In tennis, you can claim you had a panic attack and continue collecting trophies.
    What's the difference between these two sports, or actually federations? I venture to guess one is completely corrupt by the huge sums of money involved.
    http://swimswam.com/fina-bans-croatian-water-polo-player-niksa-dobud-4-years-evading-doping-test/

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    1. What is it said Serena evaded a test that your own mind didn't create?
      Is there no difference in your vocabulary between evading and seeing a tester?

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