Monday, July 6, 2015

Wimbledon Thread: Week 2

Today's thought of the day:
Tour de France: night-time doping tests done before the race
"...Riders can now be tested in and out of competition regardless of the traditional no-testing window from 11pm to 6am. It is suspected that athletes take micro-doses EPO during the night, with the no-testing window giving enough time for the blood-boosting drug to pass through their system and so not be detected in day-time anti-doping tests."
I'm sure the ITF will be pressured by the tennis media (led by Jon Wertheim, surely) and players to soon follow suit, no? Paging Dr. Stuart Miller...

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  1. What about Nick Kyrgios? He has behaved atrociously all tournament, I think in every single round he was either swearing at umpires or being really sarcastic to them, wearing a colourful headband 'accidentally' and now against Gasquet, literally throwing a game. His bad behaviour seems to correspond with his increase in power and serving speed.

    Roid rage, anyone?

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    1. To by honest with you I think Kyrgios is just a brat. Like McEnroe I suspect he will grow out of it eventually. That's not to say he isn't doping, but the behaviour is probably just a lack of maturity. At least if he inadvertently hits a ball kid, he hugs them rather than hurl abuse like Djokovic.

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    2. I agree with Cynic. So far, I think he's just a hot-tempered spoiled brat.

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    3. When did McEnroe "grow out of it"? I'm still waiting for that to happen.

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  2. The ITF only tests players after matches at grand slams, where players usually only play, every other day.

    I am sure all of the players and their doctors KNOW that there are certain drugs that they can take (like EPO and testosterone) and NEVER test positive for, if they take them within a window of time after their matches at grand slams.

    The ITF HAS TO KNOW that some players are using this opportunity to IN-COMPETITION DOPE at grand slams, yet they REFUSE to change this policy of testing only after matches at grand slams.

    Players are not only doping, but they are doing it in an "in-your-face" way, and the ITF is complicit in it.

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    1. If they do actual real testing they know they will catch players - big names. They don't give a damn about catching the cheats. Look at Marin Cilic - he claimed he had a knee injury and that was why he was missing tournaments. The ITF was happy to let him continue telling people he had a knee injury until it slipped out that he got busted for doping.

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  3. Serena at it again...3-0 up against Azarenka in the deciding set. If this is her playing badly, I'd hate to see what she's like when she plays well.

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    1. This must have been the ten millionth time in the last few months (including the FO) Williams loses the first set but wins the second and third to save the match after all. This happens in virtually every case, no matter whether it is a final or a lower ranked player she faces. Almost makes you wonder whether she is using a PED whose effects do not kick in immediately when playing.

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    2. When she comes from 2 sets down, then I will know that something is up.

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    4. Watch Serena's service game at 5-4 in the 3rd set against Heather Watson. Such an obvious tank if ever I saw it - giving her one last kick - then she brings it home so effortlessly and reaps all the adulation having at last won such a famously close match against the home favourite...

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  4. Serena loses the first set to make people think she's human. She knows full well she can beat the player across the net but toys with us and then the true Serena appears in set 2. She is really thumbing her nose at the system. Well done ITF/ATP/WADA. Well done.

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    1. I can't see her losing a single match in slams this year, at almost 34 years old! When will this bad comedy end?

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    2. Been thinking that as well. That she throws one set to not draw out too much attention to her kicking everyone's butt. Plus she seems to be friends with several players on tour & doesn't want to lose that by clobbering them. But she certainly doesn't mind clobbering Sharapova

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    3. Serena can't stand Sharapova because Sharapova makes more money than she does and there was also a past controversy concerning Grigor Dimitrov (Shara's boyfriend). That's why Serena always gives 100% from the very first point when she has to play her.

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    4. Sharapova doesn't stand a chance when she plays Serena. Serena literally wants to humiliate her whenever they play, for many of the reasons Shadow stated above. Serena beating Sharapova was never in doubt.

      The only other player Serena loathed like this was Justine Henin but Henin moved better than Sharapova and got inside Serena's head better than anyone else. Serena was never able to blow Henin off the court and one year beat Serena three Slams in a row.

      Yeah it's an absolute joke a 33 (soon to be 34) year old is dominating the women's tour. I can't remember the last time someone this old dominated either the men's or women's tour. Has she even been drug tested this year? The USADA stats posted here a few weeks ago didn't have her name on it as being one of those tennis players who had been tested.

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    5. I think a gender test is more in order.

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    6. can't believe the commentators were saying Serena was playing mediocre tennis against Sharapova. They said wasn't anywhere near her best.. Crazy!! Imagine if she was her best!! She certainly would have much better competition on the men's side

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    7. Navratilova was 33 when she won her last grand slam, and reached the final 4 years later at 37. She is an eastern european from the cold war era however, so her sporting achievements should be taken with a pinch of salt. To find another female winner you have to go back to Virginia Wade in the 70s and she was only 31.

      Serena continuing to not only win, but completely dominate, well into her 30s is very much an anomaly (on top of her already anomalous size and muscle mass).

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    8. Serena credits Venus with her power through play (interview after Roland Garros 2013)

      Q. Serena, boom, 190; boom, 195; boom, 198. It is more a matter of technique? Mental toughness? Precision? Since you are 30 centimeters shorter then Maria Sharapova, how do you explain it?

      SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't know. I'm a lot smaller then Maria, so I don't know how I'm able to serve so big. I think growing up with Venus, you know, she's serving so big, I was like, I want to serve big, too. So I think this definitely really helped me a lot. Again, I am not the tallest girl on tour, but I definitely think I use my height in a very effective way, and I use it to the fullest of my ability.


      Read more at http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2013-06-09/201306091370780532376.html#W2Jhc50LUmvED7oS.99

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    9. Serena Williams: "I think growing up with Venus, you know, she's serving so big, I was like, I want to serve big, too. So I think this definitely really helped me a lot."

      +++Well, what do you know: when you're Serena Williams, wishful thinking actually goes a long way!

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    10. She actually said she's smaller than Maria? LOOOOOLZ. Serena could crush about 99% of the ATP players.

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    11. - Serena is listed at 5'9/150 lbs (1.75 m/68kg).
      - Maria is listed at 6'2/130 lbs (1.88 m/59 kg).

      I have no idea if the figures are accurate (I don't think tennis has weigh-ins), but Serena is definitely not smaller.

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    12. Tell the other girls on the tour to feed themselves instead of chasing the skeleton status

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    14. Serena's 5'9" listing is actually quite accurate (possibly 5'9.5"). Sharapova on the other hand is closer to 6'1.5". For that matter, you can visit celebheights.com, they usually have the most accurate height listings. No idea abouth the weight though. Since a player's weight is most likely fluctuating, I suppose Serena would be in the 170-180 lbs range and Sharapova around 140 lbs when weighed today.

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    15. The entire fiasco is sickening to me. As an educator, the entire tennis show is absolutely reflecting how sports has become all about greed an corruption. The emans absolutley justify this end in this sport.

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    16. I think the heights are accurate but Serena at 150 pounds? Maria at 130 pounds? LOL - no way in hell those are accurate.

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    17. How come Lisicky who has about the same shape as Serena was able to serve the ball as hard?
      We don't have players of the men's side with Serena's corpulence because they need a lot of mobility on the men's side and with that height, that weight is just too much on the men's side. So we have never seen how a man with that height and weight would be able to serve.
      Djokovic who is 6'2 botherline 6'3 is listed with a 176 lbs while Serena is 150lbs. Serena is heavy for her size and with weight comes strength. That is why they have categories in boxing.
      Learn how to reason. There is nothing wrong with that.

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    18. How come Lisicky who has about the same shape as Serena was able to serve the ball as hard?
      We don't have players of the men's side with Serena's corpulence because they need a lot of mobility on the men's side and with that height, that weight is just too much on the men's side. So we have never seen how a man with that height and weight would be able to serve.
      Djokovic who is 6'2 botherline 6'3 is listed with a 176 lbs while Serena is 150lbs. Serena is heavy for her size and with weight comes strength. That is why they have categories in boxing.
      Learn how to reason. There is nothing wrong with that.

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    19. The simple answer here is that Lisicki has far, far, far better technique than Serena Williams but she still can't serve as fast consistently. The answer is that juicing and bulking up with power overcomes technique every time, especially in the women's game.

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  5. I have some thoughts on this too. So nice to find others asking these questions about Serena. It's unreal.
    https://mcshowblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/trouble-in-womens-tennis/

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    1. It would probably be quite easy to find proof of Serena's doping. A comparison of her serving speeds 10-15 years ago with today would doubtless show a huge discrepancy. Now, at age 34, she serves up there with the men, at 120-130mph. Henin wasn't facing serves of that order of power. Compare below.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54WUAikZ090

      You would be forgiven if at first you thought you were watching Sloane Stephens.

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    2. Fun fact: Serena is not the fastest server. Lisicki and poor fragile chronically ill sister Venus are the leaders. Sharapova is not even top-ten.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastest_recorded_tennis_serves#Women

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    3. And they are both serving bigger as they get older, right? Another fun fact.

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    4. While you are there, why don't you look up what Serena was averaging between 2000-5, when she was half the size she is today, and was getting her butt kicked by the "midget" Henin.

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    5. Racket technology!!! Ever heard of it.

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    6. "grip change"

      haha good one. :D

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    7. What's even funnier is that some people on the blog actually believe in the infamous grip change theory. But yeah, "racket technology", L-O-L...

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    8. Lisicki may have the fastest serve, but she's mostly hit and miss. In terms of consistency, nobody beats Serena, which is why she's averaging serve speeds similar to men.

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    9. It's th blindness in all of us that keeps corruption alive and well. I guess the truth is too hard for most.

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    10. Easily done. Her last match each slam (cos I'm lazy), NA means I don't have the figures, DP = didn't play.

      AO FO WI UO
      2003 NA 156 165 DP
      2004 DP 161 173 NA
      2005 172 DP 151 165
      2006 172 DP DP 164
      2007 NA 165 175 170
      2008 163 172 175 167
      2009 171 170 175 170
      2010 169 175 168 DP
      2011 DP DP 172 165
      2012 167 168 172 176
      2013 166 173 173 168
      2014 171 166 167 172
      2015 184 180 181

      Methodology is a bit wobbly in picking last match only, cos if she's injured that'll often get drag the figures down, and it's only one match after all, but gives a flavour at least.

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    11. Thanks, Arf. You are the king of stats. It seems Serena wasn't serving that much over a 100mph earlier in her career - in the early 2000's.

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    12. You guys are very limited in information and it is pretty sad. Racket technology increased the overall speed in the game of tennis.
      We need stats of average hit speed throughout the years.
      Serena and Venus even asked to change rackets or have them modified because they were missing the courts.
      Learn about more things in life. There is nothing wrong with that.

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    13. It is quite curious that the majority of people posting on this blog are fans of Federer who would have packaged more than 30 slams had Nadal not come on board.

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    14. Federer's average first serve speed today is basically the same as it was ten years ago. It seems racket technology hasn't helped him serve any faster. Or any of the other players who were playing earlier in the last decade. 'Cept Serena, of course. I go for the "grip change".

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    15. Richard, give me the stats for how fast the ball moves on average. That's what we need here. On the men side, hitting heavy serves while players can back up so much away from the baseline and return it is not the best thing to do because it takes a lot of energy out of players to serve big. If you notice, the missed serves are way faster than the serves that land in.

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    16. Ed, you aren't a very good reader. Arf made a post earlier which gave the data of average first service speeds in some of her matches over the years. As I pointed out, the figures show that 10-15 years ago she was serving a considerably slower than she is today.

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    17. @richard,

      Actually, what Arf's data seems to show is that Serena is serving considerably faster in 2015 than in any other year. That's the only real stand-out fact. There were a couple 150's sprinkled in the earlier years, but as early as 2014, she was capable of averaging 170's. If we're going to use this data to conclude anything, it's that she's seriously turned up the juice this year.

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    18. As "early as 2014"? That's only last year, so I don't know what you are trying to say there. Sure, Serena is serving huge this year but it is also apparent that earlier in her career her average service speeds were way less than today - if I convert kph to mph - in the region of 95-107mph. Ths year she is serving at least 10mph faster than that on average and has frequently cranked it into the 120's (with a top of 130mph.) Contrast Federer, who despite "racket technology" (what exactly?) averaged 117mph for his first serves against Murray, which is in the same region as when he played (with an inferior racket, one presumes) against Sampras in 2001. So, bollocks, Ed.

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    19. Damn fingers. I meant "as early as 2004".

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    20. To say Serena seriously turned up the Juice this year is a compete understatement. I was looking at some H2H stats today and Serena's Majors run from Australia to Wimbledon was diabolical in 2014. If you look at Wimbledon (discounting the wobbling incident) she was beating for the second time that year by Alize Cornet - a player well below her in height, weight, age and power in comparison. Fast forward a year and Serena can only be beaten once, at a year older?
      It will be interesting to see how she does against Mugurza today when she wins the Serena Slam - Dropping a set but coming back to win in glorious fashion?. Meanwhile the Media and the spin will blind everyone with Serena's Brilliance and (my favorite) how she is the greatest and so underestimated in sporting terms.

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    21. Had a quick glance and it's possible this year's figures are a little misleading, because her later rounds are bigger than earlier. For example, at the Aus she went (R1 first): 174 162 166 177 176 176 184. RG was similar, at 172 170 173 171 176 171 180.

      Old players maintaining their service speeds is fairly remarkable generally. Across the last decade, the norm is for players to lose approx. 5kph from early 20s to age 30 - let alone 34 or whatever age she is.

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    22. The problem with claiming racket technology as the reason for Serena's dramatic increase in server speed, and average serve speed at that, is that other players and the men have not increased by anywhere near the same margin or not increased at all. That completely destroys the argument.

      Racket technology has all been about reducing vibration so that a wider variety of shots can be achieved. It does not explain at all why certain players have had a rather dramatic jump in their serve speed where no one else has.

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    23. Lynsey Davenport has just said of Serena at the Wimbledon Final,
      "Playing the best tennis of her career at 33, its remarkable."

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    24. The stats are not favoring us so we decide to make our own case? I just noticed that the stats are for her last match each slam? Arf should have been lazy earlier and save us of these useless stats. If anything, the tournaments stats would be more revealing.
      If Federer fastest serve is 143 mph, so if he favors ball placement to heavy serves, that is his strategy. Serena knows she can only keep winning based on her serves because she can barely move, so she puts everything in it. I would add that her service motion, technic and placement are better than many top players on the men’s side (snif).
      Ask Federer to have the same weight to height proportion just like serena and let’s see how fast he hits the ball.
      You can’t ask why Kevin Garnett is weaker than Shaq even though they are both 7 footers? Weight matters in the strength department.
      If you check the stats, there are no names who serve 120+ as their fastest serves in 2015 alone. But none of them is in the top ten except Serena and why? They would rather starve themselves to take naked pictures and make money off of it than be dedicated to their careers and win.

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    25. "Serena knows she can only keep winning based on her serves because she can barely move"

      Are you aware of what you're actually saying there?

      You're trying to muddy the waters here to suit your own argument that, on occasion, you seem to be unintentionally clearing them.

      "They would rather starve themselves to take naked pictures and make money off of it than be dedicated to their careers and win. "

      What a truly bizarre 'argument', and again, are you aware of what you're actually saying there?

      I think a lot of them have been told what kind of steroid programme they'd need to go on to get Serena's physique, been told the health risks as well as the effect on their looks and quite rightly bailed out of doing it. A lot of players have attempted to lose muscle mass to gain better acceleration and court coverage, but again, the power game rules supreme - as you say ;-).

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  6. Good to see others than this site asking these questions.

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  7. Good discussion above on Serena and potential doping. It's become so obvious there's something going on that it's just surreal. About time the journalists starting including Serena/doping questions in their mailbags etc. or bring it up in an article in just order to dismiss it, or whatever they have to do to protect themselves. It's starting to turn this sport into a joke.

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    1. Mystery, the most disturbing part for me is that neither the WTA nor the players themselves who are highly invested are pushing for answers. Other competitors especially because if a fellow competitor is cheating they are suffering financially and professionally from a cheater in their ranks - yet still play without question in a system they can never excel in being clean. Begs the question does anyone in Tennis care or do they not see a problem?

      On the media reporting against any sports star or organisation. Using Serena as an example - The WTA jumped on the member of the Russian Tennis Federation for the "Williams Brothers" debacle; with both a lengthy ban and fine. Can you imagine what WTA/ATP/ITF would do to a Sports Journalist for implying they are complicit in covering up dirty players?
      Also anyone challenging Serena would be considered "Racist" by the general public - if dealt with correctly by relevant spin (of either Serena’s or WTA’s PR) could mean sudden death through sales and loss of credibility with the public for any publication. I might add these values don't seem to apply to white sports stars if a Fox news reporter can state on television that Rory McElroy is "a leprechaun" and she doesn't like him. goes unnoticed.

      On this I believe Sports Journalists will shy away from “the issue” because for the greater good of keeping their jobs in a volatile publication market and being in favour with the Tennis organisations. Who gives them access to events and players?

      It will take a Journalist without ties to sports or any investment in the market to actually look in this. Once an investigation proves correct and “in the public interest” others will bite. Like the Lance Armstrong story really.

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    3. Attacks on white athletes are always fair game because "white privilege", lol... The social justice warriors are everywhere now, proving everyday that the fiction from the novel 1984 is the new reality.

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    4. I so much agree with you!!!! Having watched tennis since the 60's it makes me very sad that players that really deserve to be #1 are going to be outdone by someone I considered all along to be on some self-enhancing drug. I do not believe in "miracle-powers". The career of Serena always indicated her"hatred" for practice and any physical work-outs. By her own admission , she preferred the world of "fashion and Hollywood status." It makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    5. Personally, I can't bear to see the records of those who really "earned" them be overcome by someone who by her own admission over the years "hated physical workouts, and preferred other endeavors. Tennis has become totally about selecting plyers to market and then help them along by seeding them advantageously(susing the IBM statistics) on each player. If those who did the seeding were outside the sport, it would become an honest sport. Right now, it has become a political ball game.

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    6. Yes the system of the players dictating the game is being helped along nicely. Meanwhile professionalism is being slowly wrung out.

      I read an article on how Nadal had an umpire banned from officiating at his matches because he was given a time violation during the Rio open against Fabio Fogini. When I read this I couldn’t believe it, the umpire in question Carlos Bernardes happens to be one of the decent umpires left in the game. The message sent isn’t a healthy one.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/frenchopen/11622372/French-Open-2015-Rafael-Nadal-makes-a-mockery-of-the-rule-book.html

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    8. Do you guys remember how much Serena was fined for putting that corrupted minuscule creature intentionally calling foot fault to make Serena lose against Kim?
      Do you guys remember how they humiliated the South African Semenya and everyone was asking that she took the gender test while they were celebrating their "litlle Jenner in them"?
      There are no multi-slams winners like Nadal and Djokovic on the women side while Serena is dominating, and Federer would be closing on 40 slams if they were not there. But unfortunately, our 'I am never wrong because of my race' only focus on Serena. Good thing they are both the same age so we can compare them.
      The women total count of slams has always been more than the men side for a reason, but Federer is still number 2 in the world and our self righteous prophets don't seem to have an issue with it

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    9. It sickens me that this has become a race issue. I would question ANYONE who is 33 going on 34 who dominates tennis no matter their race. What Serena is doing is unprecedented in tennis. No other star in this game has ever dominated like she has at the age she is at. Questions need to be asked and they're not getting asked - Serena has a long history of strange injuries and illnesses that she refuses to explain.

      If Roger Federer had won the first two Slams of the year at 33/34 and had barely lost all year I would be questioning him as well. The cynic in me questions Federer as well because I question ALL tennis players because the drug testing in tennis is the worst in all of sports.

      Don't give me this junk about "racket technology" or "grip change" or any other garbage insecure Serena fans spew to try and justify her play. Every other player at Serena's age has declined yet she is more dominant than she was 10 years ago. It defies belief.

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    10. Don't sell me that. You have to think a little more here. Serena is not dominating against great players. She is dominating against self starved players who would rather bulk up than complain because they fell they would look more feminin. Check the racket technology history. Cultivate yourself. I am not talking about grip change.
      Go back to the videos of the 80s and 90s and see the overall speed of the exchanges and you will see the difference.

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    11. @Eric Ed

      Time to change your diaper.

      No need to piss your pants and throw a screaming tantrum because people on this site feel differently than you do. Grow up douchebag.

      Sorry I had to delurk to write this. I enjoy this site but the moderator needs to start taking the trash like Eric Ed out. He has ruined far too many threads that had decent discussions going. I would post more but certain people are intent on derailing threads.

      Back to lurking...

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    12. MV,

      you're funny. So you only want this to be anti-Serena and Pro-fed site. You are just surprised by how empty your rethoric is after I provide my arguments. it makes you bitter and sad.
      I am just teaching how to think in life and you should thank me for it.

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    13. Eric, Serena is highly unlikely to see her 40th birthday. She might be OK with that risk but I'm afraid very few other female players are willing to do what she's done to herself. Ditto Nadal.

      No player out there today is clean at all, and that includes Federer (he never gets tired), but there are clearly some players who are taking far more risks with their body in the form of steroid use to build muscle mass and overcome poor technique. That's what we have with Serena and that's why there is so a massive discrepancy in the women's game.

      You're just desperately grasping at what few straws you think you have.

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  8. So unfair to show such a lack of respect for Novack today by the scheduling. The NO. 1 player has always been scheduled LAST. The media has gone to far in shoving Federer and now, Murray at the public. We all know that those who do the seeding have the time to review the IBM statistics on each player and use this knowledge to help or hurt players advance.

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    1. What are you complaining about? It gives Djoker more time between matches especially since the 2nd SF might go to 5 sets. He's kicking back right now with his feet up while Fed/Murray fight it out.

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    2. They put Murray-Federer on last because Murray is the star attraction being they're in England. If Murray-Federer had been first, you'd have an awful lot of people leaving after the first match.

      Also, as Lopi mentioned, I doubt Djokovic minds. He gets more time to rest.

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  9. Mark Petchey on the BBC:

    "Andy Murray is a very stocky 6'3". He has turned himself into a virtual 'man-mountain' ".

    Nobody kicks sand in Andy Murray's face anymore. Not since he decided the 'old' Andy wasn't going to cut it at the very top.

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    1. Lol, and now from the official Wimbledon website's own liveblog:

      Murray *1-2 Federer
      16:23
      "Liking what we're seeing so far on Centre Court. Roger Federer holds with an ace - that's No.47 of The Championships so far - but Andy Murray is pushing and pressing with some muscly shots."

      +++"Muscly"! It's basically code language now, the elephant in the room and all that.

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    2. Seriously, as much as I like both players, the almost 34 year old who doesn't even break sweat after 20+ rallies is the one who looks suspicious here.

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    3. Yeah, it's quite incredible to think that Federer looked to be finished 2 years ago when he was being straight-setted by guys like Robredo, Delbonis and Brands. He is moving like a 20-year-old on the court today.

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    4. Wasn't he slowed down by back issues in 2013 though, and he still played through it instead of taking extended breaks. He had a good year last year and this year too, but nothing mind-blowing like 2004-2007. His wins since after Wimbledon 2012 have seemingly been 500-level tournaments most of the time. I can't watch the match right now though, so I don't see what you guys are seeing.

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    5. His intensity is insane. He's hitting the lines. Turning defence into attack and more than competing in the extended rallies. And Murray's playing awesome. Is Fed not older than Serena and we're talking about the men's tour here???

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    6. Andy Roddick on the BBC:

      "Andy Murray was stuck at No.4 for years. He could have been content with mediocrity, but decided to do something about it ..."

      What exactly, A-Rod? Oh, yeah - he decided to become a "virtual 'man-mountain' ".

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    8. Roddick still grateful for Murray folding in the 2009 Wimbledon semi final.

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    9. Murray was No2 at 22 and has had three all time greats ahead of him and is still only number three virtue of Nadal's decline so I have no idea what Roddick is smokin'.

      Re, Fed. On the other hand sometimes everything just clicks, so maybe this can be put down to that. But If he's goes on to final, I almost want him to loose to Novak to preserve his legacy because to carve through Simone, Murray, Novak a few weeks shy of 34 does leave some awkward questions….

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    10. Federer defeats Murray 7-5, 6-4, 6-4

      Total and utter destruction. This performance was better than some of the finals Federer played in his prime.

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  10. By the way, that 20 year-old ballerina on the court today was straight setted in Paris just last month, beaten in 4 in Australia by Seppi in January and straight-setted by Cilic in New York. IMO, it's not a stretch to think he could play well in London, on grass, this year.

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    1. ??? Are you saying he has been cycling up for the grass court season??

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    2. No... on grass points are shorter, bounces are lower, it's perfect for Federer, who loves to play with ease/natural talent more so than with grinding, obviously.

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    3. What??? His FSP was awesome but there were loads of grinding rallies. At the start Andy seemed to have the upper hand in them but as the match wore on, Roger was winning them all and there was no signs of him slowing. He just routined an on song Murray who is a top grass courter himself as easily has Serena took out Sharapova. Commentators are calling it a performance "out of this world," "rolled back the years" and one of his "best matches he ever at Wimbledon" - at 34???

      As I say, things can click for you and its always difficult to tell how tired Fed in with his poker face but if… if he does that to Novak to...

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    4. Both Federer and the 'man-mountain' could be doping. However, it is still satisfying, I have to admit, to see that a Federer at the top of his game is better than Murray at his best. It seems steroidal bulk is still not good enough to beat sheer talent on the biggest occasion, even if sheer talent has - er - supped from the cup of eternal youth. Whatever that is. Back to the drawing board for Andy. Perhaps he needs to become even bigger! The mind boggles!

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    5. By the way, Roger's first serve average speed was 117mph. I wonder if he is up there with Serena yet? That would be a feat!

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    6. As the experts who broke the cycling stories said, physique and doping are not the same thing. If you're going to dope in tennis use EPO for better recovery and have a lance armstrong physique like Novak. As you have said before, the bigger you are the quicker you tire. Why are you so obsessed with physique when we know serial dopers can be skinny too?

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    7. I don't believe there is just this one way to go at it. You can be bulky and use stuff for quicker recovery as well. You have Djokovic, Nadal, Ferrer, Tipsarevic, Murray, Nadal: guys with different physiques who are highly suspicious all the same.

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    8. This whole talk of physique is distracting from the doping issue, McEnroe admitted to doping in his autobiography, Korda was caught doping and he looks like a string bean, Cilic was doping and he's no one's idea of an individual with a massive physique.

      Physique means nothing in tennis - you can be a doper no matter how you look. You can look like Novak Djokovic and look lean and dope. You can look like Serena Williams who looks like a bodybuilder and dope.

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    9. But if you bulk up you go to the front of the class.

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    10. McEnroe confused anti-inflamatories with doping. He later corrected himself about that. I guess he isn't too much up with the play on the topic.

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    11. McEnroe is the type of person who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room but is in fact one of the dumbest. He has become the personification of everything he used to speak out against.

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    12. While a skinny guy could be no less doping than a bulky player, the latter's physique is a better indicator for PED usage, since it is difficult if not impossible to maintain or even build lots of muscle mass throughout the year without the aid of drugs, especially when no loss of speed and stamina is shown.

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    13. A comparison of Murray A. with Murray J, shows how Murray's physique has developed over time. His older brother looks positively anaemic by comparison.

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  11. Roger would've tired for sure it Murray could have kept the match going. Roger's best chance of winning this match and the tournament was to wrap it up in 3. He did that, and now the final could be a classic. If anything, Fed should be the slight favorite.

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      If it goes to 5 on Sunday, he will lose. Djokovic knows this, I'm sure.

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    2. Federer will have the crowd behind him but make no mistake, Djokovic is the heavy favorite (although he was the heavy favorite in Paris as well).

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    3. I think it would depend how long the first four sets took. The adrenaline can also fuel him on Sunday to a certain extent. Obviously, 4+ hours of intense rallies will take their toll on a 33 year old, but they could be in a fifth set with less time on court than that. The important thing was not having any baggage from the semifinal match. Now he'll go into the final fresh.

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    4. Seeya, I remember reading that before the 2012 semifinal too. I think he's every bit as good now as then (he's older but he's got a better racquet now). Like I said above, the important thing was avoiding long matches leading up to the final. He's done that, so he's in a great position to win this thing.

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    6. Classic - it's the new racket! Was waiting for that to come up!

      In this year's wimby there are two standout suspect dopers and they are both about to be 34.

      That said, everything noted above about fed's style of play on this surface is true and he deserves the benefit of the doubt after just one match. But it has to be said he was looking far less tired than Murray at the end of the long rallies and there we many of them. But its also true that when you have the wind in your sails and you're playing dream like it can give you that extra step. I guess we'll see what Sunday brings. Will be interesting to see if he can go five with Djokovic again.

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    7. If Fed wins i'll be astonished. Djokovic has a knack of "coming back" even if he's down. The match against Murray at the French Open and Anderson at Wimbledon were the strangest occurrences in modern times. Made me wonder about the French and whether the onslaught from Warwinka gave him no time to use his lifelines (Medical time outs & high drama).
      Fed can get into final's, he just cant win them and if he wins a major at this stage with Djokovic manning the goalposts, something will be mighty suspicious.

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    8. More nonsense being spewed about "racquet technology". The only change in the past 50 years regarding racquets was leaving wood behind. Simply changing your racquet doesn't help a player one iota. Some players are better fits for certain brands but the racquet doesn't make one bit of difference in the way the ball is hit. If anything, it's the strings not the racquet that is a more pertinent issue.

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    9. @Northwestcircus.

      Your pro-Murray-bias comes through loud and clear. There are at least three stand-out dopers - not two - and one of them has been described by a BBC commentator as a "man-mountain". Oh, yeah - the once skinny dude from Dunblane.

      Actually, I think there were way more than three stand-out dopers. One got knocked out in the first week, but the list could easily go on.

      In terms of the Federer-Murray match, Federer showed astonishing speed on defence (he has always been very quick) but played less defensive tennis than Murray. Murray was constantly hurling himself around the court, retrieving balls as Federer relentlessly attacked him. If there were EPO's - or anything else - present they looked to have been of greater advantage to Murray. That's his game. But then, there was no Djokovic or Nadal present to sustain the rallies in 30-40 shots. So who knows.

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    10. "Murph," why would you be "astonished"? Fed very easily could have won last year and I think he's playing even better this year. In both cases, he's going into the final with no matches that really put a major toll on his body. As for the Djoker, coming back against Anderson is one thing. He ain't coming back against Fed if he gets down 2 set to 0.

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    11. Seeya, so you think a player could use, let's say, Wilander's or Lendl's racquet from the 1980s and compete on the Tour with that? Come on. Yes, advances in string technology have been big, but racquets keep getting more advanced as well. I think at least it's helped Fed. People were clamoring for him to switch too long before he finally did.

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    12. Have yet to see today's match, but so far this edition of Wimbledon, from Federer's perspective, reminds me a lot of 2012, barring the near-disaster of the Benneteau match (and the back flare up against Malisse). I could see him win on Sunday. (Last year, at this time, I didn't think he could beat Djokovic in the final.)

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    13. David, on the basis of Fed's age, then Djokovic being who he is both physically and mentally will try he's hardest not to loose another major to a Swiss in two consecutive tournaments. Will Djokovic even let the match go to 2 down in the first instance?
      If i'm wrong, i'm wrong but Wawrinka had to play out of his skin to beat Djokovic, can Fed do the same?

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    14. Hmm.. gee richard I wonder who your man is? And worse you seem to condone doping as long as the style of tennis pleases your eye. Says a lot about you.

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    15. "In this year's wimby there are two standout suspect dopers and they are both about to be 34."

      In this day an age, EVERYBODY is a suspect, but to put Fed at the same level of suspicion as Serena is beyond asinine. Fed has clearly followed a gradual (and albeit slower than others, but nonetheless sure) decline. How many Seppis and Stakhovskys did he lose to in his prime? Compare that to the massive mountains and troughs in Serena's career, coupled with her utter dominance at age 34 - it's not even close to a comparison.

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    16. BDS, they're both a few weeks away from 34, straddle two era's and like in the Williams/Sharapova semi, Fed just blew the in-form number three seed (who was having a good game himself) off the court. Of course Fed is no Serena, but I'm entitled to draw a comparison (although I'm not sure I did), especially on this blog.

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    18. @David McPherson: You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I just don't see racquets as being the big issue that some claim it is. It helps players but it is not the sole reason someone plays better.

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    19. @Northwestcircus

      Your tendency to misconstrue argument does make you come across as contrived but not clever.

      1.I think almost anyone could be doping but the indicators for Federer doping are far fewer than for Murray. That's one of the reasons I enjoy seeing Federer beat Murray.

      2. No, I don't condone doping.

      3. Your admitted partiality to Murray results in you strenuously arguing against the likelihood of Murray doping, and alternatively appearing to say if he is doping then Federer is more likely. There we disagree completely on both counts.

      Clear enough for you?

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    20. @Seeya,

      If you are saying that racket technology is not going to take a mediocre player and make him/her a champion, I agree. However, as we've seen with Federer's switch to a slightly larger frame, upgrading your racket can make a positive difference. It probably won't add 10 MPH to your serve, but it might add a couple. Of course, no pros is switching from an 80's wooden racket to one of today's rackets, rather they are moving forward at most a decade in technology, so the improvement is not going to be earth shattering.

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    21. "Federer will have the crowd behind him but make no mistake, Djokovic is the heavy favorite"

      The stupidity on this blog is criminal sometimes.

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    22. We know Tommy - but we love you anyways :)

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  13. Nice to know Serena doesn't need to lift weights. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/11/sports/tennis/tenniss-top-women-balance-body-image-with-quest-for-success.html?ref=sports&_r=0

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  14. Swiss doping seems to be much more stealthier than spanish, scottish and serbian doping nowadays. That, or the spaniard early exits have led to fewer cash and an increasing dependence on Federer. Therefore, the ITF's allowing the old swiss to take some magic vitamins to recover the cash.

    It's amazing how a 34 year old with a one-handed backhand (that requires more stamina if used often) dominated buff man with a two handed backhand that lately never tires.

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    1. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he won in 3 sets and served him off the court.

      Tool.

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    2. 'Swiss' doping? Wawrinka certainly is, in a big way. However, with Federer, although I'm convinced he is doing some form of blood boosting, he just doesn't show the signs of reckless steroid abuse I've seen with pretty much ever other player.

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    4. "Therefore, the ITF's allowing the old swiss to take some magic vitamins to recover the cash."

      - Didn't you say the same thing at the start of the US Open?, It sure didn't help after his 5 set match with Monfils considering he got blown off the court by Cilic in his next match.

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      - I agree with you. I don't think Federer would be on anabolics.

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  15. Murray is a big retriever but he certainly tires. In the Aus open he went toe to toe with Djokovic for two sets then just disappeared. Djokovic played all over him and it was clear he was going to win from the third set. I remember Djokovic played in the fourth as though it was the first. Murray was certainly a bit worn out. Same at the French, Murray was never going to win that match at all let alone if t went to four or five sets.

    The Final should be djokovic's to win. He's playing this year a bit like it's 2011. His down spell of the latter half of 2012 and 2013 is over. Don't let a nervous final at Roland Garros fool you, he's back to his best!

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    1. Nah. The old one is going to win. Every journalist and legend is saying it: "Federer turned back the clock". The more cynical suspect doping. Federer's fans here remain "to be convinced".

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    2. Every journalist said that Eugenie Bouchard was going to win in 2014 also....I mostly figure there's more spin going on in the background at events than actual reporting.
      One thing's for sure Fed is going to have to bring something entirely different if he wants to beat Djokovic Sunday. They've met 5 times this year and Djokovic leads the H2H by 4 wins (i think Fed leads the overall H2H by 1 win?) They're tied at wins on grass but from what i've heard the sun's baked the grass so much its more like a hard court.
      Then again Djokovic could dip, he's results this year are outstanding since AO and has everyone talking about his "Athleticism".

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    3. "Nah. The old one is going to win. Every journalist and legend is saying it: "Federer turned back the clock". The more cynical suspect doping. Federer's fans here remain "to be convinced"."

      Yeah, what we are seeing on this blog right now is one of the reasons why I barely post here anymore. People can claim they're unbiased as much as they want, but it's pretty damn obvious that most people around here have a strong Federer-bias. People hurl accusations at various players for the smallest things, but as soon as someone does so much as suggest that Federer may be taking something to prolong his career, they get their panties in a twist and all kinds of excuses are being posted. It's really kind of sad.

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    4. Federer is not an obvious doper like some other people that's why. He actually has a good excuse for playing poorly in 2013.

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    5. It is very funny how some people feel that claiming everyone is a Federer fan invalidates claims of doping with other players.

      Federer is certainly doing some form of EPO blood boosting because he simply doesn't get tired. Let's get that out of the way and I have not seen this blog or THASP ever claim otherwise. Everyone is doing something because they have to.

      But, I don't see the evidence of massive and quite dangerous steroid abuse I see among other players - the oversized head, ridiculous biceps with prominent veins etc. and I'm pretty sure he is well aware of those risks. In terms of technique and the effort he does or does not put into points he sees as important or not is very clever.

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    6. Segedunum,

      Why is it so hard to accept that Federer's doing what he's doing at his age and doing it clean? Michael Jordan led the Bulls to pretty much all their titles after the age of 30. Sure, it's a team sport, but he was by far the most important element. Call me naive, but I think a 33-year-old, if he does everything right with his training, can play a 3-hour match on grass in pleasant weather.

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    7. Because it isn't possible. To compete at his age, at the level he is, means he has to be doing something, and he has to against players like Nadal who are willing to gamble with their health and life. I've seen Federer do thirty shot rallies and his chest never moves up and down. As much as a like his technique and love watching him play there's only one answer for that.

      Granted, the economical and clever way he plays (he picks and chooses what effort he puts into a point depending on how critical it is and shortens points) has played a part in him having a long and successful career and he probably isn't doing the reckless steroid abuse that other players do, but he has certainly had 'help'.

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    8. "Federer is certainly doing some form of EPO blood boosting because he simply doesn't get tired."

      Do you get paid to type like a retard? He gets tired all the time. You're full of shit.

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    9. I'm afraid you really are a deluded fan if you believe that.

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  16. Do you guys remember when Djokovic when Djokovic went to a smaller racket and couldn't hit the ball as fast no matter how much he screamed. Do you guys remember when Djokovic was beating Nadal left and right and Nadal added a little string to his racket and Djokovic had trouble beating him?
    Learn the game and complain less

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    1. Lol, 'learn the game' coming from Eric ed. do you remember when Djokovic was clearly third best in 2010 then starting January 2011 he won the Australian plus four masters in a row? Wow that racquet change sure worked for him!

      Funny that in the women's game Serena must be the only one to discover a 'new racquet' in the last five years. The others really need to 'catch up'!

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    2. Wow, changing the racquet size does miracles. I imagine having a larger racket tires you less and gives you more focus. Who needs performance enhancement drugs and brain doping when racquet is all there is?

      By the way, Eric... Is Wilson/Head/Babolat/Yonex/Prince paying you?

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    3. Read my earlier posts. Noone is saying it is enough to have a different racket but that racket technology increases the ball speed as well as the ability to control balls

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    4. Mystery: Serena is not the only one. Sara Errani jumped from rank 48 to 5 in singles and from 27 to 2 on doubles in 2012 changing her racket. By the way, her doctor was Luis Garcia del Moral.

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    5. It doesn't mean anything. So Djokovic, Federer, and all the players who changed racket must be doping? Players change rackets all the time if it suits their needs

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    6. We were on to Errani very early here, before it came out that she had Lance Armstrong's former doping doctor. So true, she's another one who has 'upgraded her racquet'!

      Halep is another interesting one. Surging right up through the rankings last year, going deep into slams, but now, can't win a thing...

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    7. Not that i want to wade into the Racket debate but here it goes...A racket is inanimate and can only become useful when welding by its user. Saying this, slight changes such as frame, the weight at the head etc can be customized. This will help with the flow of the swing, not the hits which is largely down to the skill of the person using it.

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    8. Errrani - She goes off the rails pretty quickly over the slightest thing. for example She had an aggressive verbal confrontation with Alize Cornet for shouting Vamos instead of Allez at a point - i thought this was a little overboard. Didn't know about Lance's doctor though, makes her behavior even more perplexing.

      Halep - god what happened to her? first she's skipping all over the place winning premier events but can't get that far in Majors. Goes from beating or going toe to toe with her fellow seeds then looses to two qualifiers in the French and Wimbledon respectively. Very strange indeed.

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    10. When did Djoper move to a smaller frame size? You make things up as you goes along.

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    11. Mystery,

      Doping or not doping, It still doesn't mean the racket didn't help her

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    12. Errani was a part of TennisVal, a training clinic in Valencia (Spain). David 'eternal youth' Ferrer was there too, and some others. And Dr Del Moral worked there too. Errani was questioned about it at the U.S. Open (2013 I think?) and claimed he was 'the best doctor for everything' while at the same time her brother-coach was claiming that she 'only saw him once, for a routine cardiac exam'. The whole thing STUNK.

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    13. You haven't the faintest idea at all about 'the game'. This is as classic a piece of denial as it gets.

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  17. Maybe Federer's switched to a gluten free diet? ;)

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    1. Federer might not have. the same endurance but he seems to move faster and covering the court better than when he was younger.
      The same can't be said about Serena

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    2. Serena's court coverage for a women of her relative size at the age she is now is the biggest elephant in the room there is, pardoning the pun there.

      But of course, talking about Federer invalidates everything else.

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    3. http://www.amazon.com/Serve-Win-Gluten-Free-Physical-Excellence/dp/0345548981

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  18. Peter,

    You can ask your co-conspirators. Some even said at that time they didn't know why he would do that but they thought it might be for advertisement purposes.
    It might be in 2012, but I don't remember correctly.
    You guys act as if you watch the game just to figure out who dopes and who doesn't dope. And if you like someone or that person is not good enough, then he is not doping, but if it is the opposite, then that player must be doping.

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    1. There are particular characteristics that can determine doping likelihood. A 34 year old player who would beat the 24 year old version of herself, and who is sweeping all before her in a literally unprecedented run of majors in all of history (at that age), surely has to raise a red flag...

      A 34 year old in her (supposed) career twilight, will soon win THE Grand Slam? Come off it...

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    2. "And if you like someone or that person is not good enough, then he is not doping, but if it is the opposite, then that player must be doping."

      That argument renders everything you've come out with null and void. You do realise that applies to you?

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    3. and you hit the nail right on the head segedunum.They have no reply to you.They have neither the skill nor the heart to stand in a champion's shoes.

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    4. Pretty rich talk from this forum's resident troll who has said in the past that he thinks everyone in tennis is doping but Serena. No wonder he's trying to change the subject to racquets, I mean he can't talk about the testing which is non-existent.

      @dtank77:

      Psst, segedunum is DISAGREEING with Eric Ed. I mean, I know you're one of Eric Ed's sock puppet accounts but please at least pretend you have reading comprehension.

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    5. You are right I misunderstood but nevertheless you or anyone else on this site has neither the skill nor the will to understand what it means to be the greatest tennis player of all time and maybe the greatest athlete.Hey Serena let's go party in the panic room and stick it up their asses.

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  19. During the coverage of last night's Tour de France, Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwin were joking about tennis players getting corticosteroid shots to keep them going which aren't allowed under cycling's anti-doping rules.

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  20. Jon McEnroe on Serena at 5-4 in the opening set against Garbine Mugururza.

    "We have seen the 'C' Serena and now we are seeing the 'B' Serena. I wonder when the 'A' Serena will arrive?"

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    1. What about the E Serena, the P Serena, and the O Serena?

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    3. Watching some of the match - all of it was too much of an ordeal - took my mind temporarily off the topic of doping. I don't think I have seen such a load of garbage pass for a grand slam final. By both players. It was so bad I wouldn't have cared if I had seen syringes sticking out of their backsides. I think I will go and watch the Tour de France.

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    4. Foreman was beating young guys at 50 and everyone knows he wasn't doping. you are born with power, that is why Serena is powerful. I wonder how old are the people on this page. You don't lose your physical strength by 34. You may only lose in mobilty. You start losing your strength past fifty.

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  21. Please if you're going to cry, do it in an orderly manner. i am celebrating and i need calm around me

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    1. Do you honestly believe Serena Williams HASN'T been on the juice?

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    2. Well, I hope the celebrations will be worth it for you and Serena when you mourn her untimely death. What she has done to her body is reckless and irresponsible.

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    3. What age are you?
      If Serena wins with a question over her integrity, it's not a win at all.

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    4. Questions over integrity based on what? Lack of understanding of human body dynamics?

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    6. Lack of testing again??? If you have taken notice of yourself, you would have noticed that you haven't made any arguments against Serena. you only accused her of doping.
      Serena doesn't outlast her opponents in endurance, her opponents give too much just to win one set and then they run out of gas. If you can find stats on the miles covered by Serena compared to her opponents, you will understand.
      Serena just treats her opponents like ball boys and they are the ones doing the running.

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    7. I think my observations are perfectly relevant comparing like with like especially comparing 2014 GS performance with 2015 GS performance - literally with the same set of opponents involved.
      Your right the quality isn't great and neither is Serena's. According to you she wins with force, which in itself poses more questions not clarifies the doping issue.

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  22. Serena Williams greatest achievement is showing how much of a farce tennis is, and that includes the media coverage of it.

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  23. Someone was comparing the dominance of Serena Williams to Federer, I'm not sure why considering Williams has just won the last 4 slams and Federer last Slam was in 2012.

    As for the Murray match, Federer has always beaten him in the bigger tournaments, he leads 4-1 at the WTFs, and 5-1 at slams (Murray's only victory coming after Federer had squeaked past Tsonga in 5 the previous round).

    Can Federer win? We'll see. His serving as well as last year, however last year he returned very poorly. He admitted in his press conference that he couldn't read Djokovic serve until the fourth set. I put Djokovic as the favourite because he's having a monster year (I think he's made the finals of every tournament this year)

    Though Federer has a chance. Other than his challenger clay court title in Istanbul his other titles (looking at this past 18 months) have come on the quicker courts:

    Halle x2
    Dubai x2
    Brisbane
    Basel
    Shanghai
    Cincinnati

    He'll need to play as he did in Dubai and Shanghai, play offensive and go for broke.



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    1. Serena is now 8-1 vs. Federer in GS titles since (and including) Wimbledon 2012. Who says women shouldn't get equal pay to the men? LOL.

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    2. ...and they're the same age. If Federer had the same results as Serena in the past 4 years everyone would say he's doping. Hey, people say it anyway just because he beat Murray. Maybe the WTA is just the weakest of eras ever.

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    3. Yes, LopiLopi, the WTA era is weak. That's why you don't have the same woman winning multiple slams even when Serena is not winning them,
      Federer broke all records in the history book while playing 5 setters. If he was playing best of 3, he would probably be playing till he is 45.
      Fed, Nadal and Djokovic don't lose against nobodies when they dope but Serena somehow manages to lose against no names so many times in slams and people still think she dopes. Why the doping doesn't show in her consistency?
      Without her powerful serve, she would not win a single tournament at her age but Federer can still outrun anyone not named Nadal or Djokovic.

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    4. Compare the number of hours Federer spent on the court palying against dopers with the number of hours Serena spent on the court excluding the doubles and you will probably see that Serena has spent about half if not less thaan the time Federer spent on the court. It is not just a matter of age, the wear and tear is proportioante to the time spent on the courts and physical predisposition or attributes

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    5. Comparing Serena and Federer's results head-to-head is asinine. To do so to defend Federer against an doping accusation is even more stupid.

      But here, you read this kind of bullshit quite often.

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  26. "...So, as far as I’m concerned, everyone from Roger Federer on down to the most desperate journeyman is a potential doper..."
    -Pete Bodo, Tennis Sportswriter, 2006


    It's such a shame Bodo did a 180. He could have been Tennis' equivalent of Walsh and Kimmage, going after the top figures in the ATP & WTA. But Tennis is his livelihood (just like other journalists) and I guess he didn't want to risk it.

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  27. IMO, no athlete is above suspicion when it comes to doping. The simple fact is, though, that some ping far more than others on the doping radar.

    When an athlete's physique or fitness levels dramatically exceed those of their peers, or change rapidly without plausible explanation, suspicions arise. That's why Nadal, Djokovic and Williams get mentioned so often. The same occurs when athletes are associated with people involved in doping, which is why Errani's name keeps coming up.

    Although it's reasonable to question Federer's longevity, the reason he's generally aroused less suspicion than others is simply his lack of a doper's body.....

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    1. Like Amstrong? or Djokovic? or so many others? The issue is you guys believe only doping can make a woman muscular. I am white so I don't know how you are built. As far as blacks are concerned, no black is surprised. That doesn't mean all black women are built like Serena but many of them can be built like that if they worked out.

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    3. Armstrong had a classic doping physique. It suited his purposes to have an ectomorphic build with a high power-to-weight ratio.... Some athletes want more raw power, so they bulk up. Others need more endurance, so they use combinations of drugs to strengthen muscles, but minimize subcutaneous tissue other then muscle, so they are reducing energy utilization by having to move less body mass. Federer does not fit this bill. I saw him change shirt at Wimbledon, and he had distinct rolls of fat around his belly.

      I remember having a conversation with a colleague in early 1999 in which I said that I thought Armstrong was a liar and a doper. I didn't realize that he was my colleagues hero. She simply could not conceive that he was capable of cheating. It took a decade for her to realize that she was blinded by her fandom. It's never good to over-idolize your heroes, Eric...

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  28. THASP or Sen, this probably needs updating:

    http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/serena-williams.html

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