Sunday, April 17, 2016

Andy Murray

Interesting comments from Murray to the Daily Mail, including a statement that indicates he believes the ITF will change their rules and start announcing provisional suspensions.
'If someone is going through that process, the tennis world should let people know and, as far as I’m aware, they are changing that rule now. If someone is serving that suspension period or the period where they are arguing it or trying to come to conclusions what the sentence is going to be, that is going to become public knowledge.'

'So you’re not going to have silent bans or someone saying they were injured. That happened with Croatia’s Marin Cilic, where he pulled out of Wimbledon injured. People started talking and then it came out that he had failed a drugs test. And that looks terrible.'

'I have played against players and thought, “They won’t go away” or “They don’t seem to be getting tired...Have I ever been suspicious of someone? Yeah. You hear things.'

21 comments:

  1. It's clear what, and who these implications are directed at. It's also great to see Nadal win another title strictly because of his out of this world conditioning and inability to get tired.

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    1. Only a gluten-free player can match that kind of "conditioning".

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  2. Boris Becker responds:

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    Boris Becker claimed Andy Murray is ‘totally out of order’ for admitting he has been suspicious of his opponents doping in the past.

    "We have random drug testing and unless it’s proven, they are 100% innocent," Becker told Sportsmail, "So to throw in a curve ball and assume something because somebody has won a Grand Slam or is fitter I think is totally out of order.
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    "Andy is one of the fittest players on the tour – he often outlasts other players and nobody is questioning his ethics"
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    But Becker, who coaches world No 1 Novak Djokovic, insisted all the top players are clean, to the best of his knowledge.

    "It’s a very dangerous subject. I can only repeat that tennis is clean. I believe 100% Andy is clean," said Becker, speaking at the Laureus World Sport Awards, "Roger is clean, Rafa (Nadal) is clean, Stan (Wawrinka) is clean, all these guys are clean.
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    "There was always a suspicion of Rafa and I find that so unbelievably disrespectful about one of greatest players of all time.

    "I can only speak for Novak and believe me he gets tested a lot! That can mean twice in a Grand Slam. In Melbourne he got tested in the first week and the second week. He would be playing a match at night and somebody comes to his hotel room at 7am to do a urine test and I think, “how dare you.” But those are the rules.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3544745/Boris-Becker-slams-totally-order-Andy-Murray-British-No-1-admits-doping-suspicions.html

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    1. This is the same Boris Becker who accused the "tireless" Thomas Muster of doping in the 90's. But Boris was playing (and losing to Muster) then. So disrespectful.

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    2. The fact that Becker felt the need to comment says that he believes Murray is pointing the finger at Djokovic. What does that tell us? I thought he was pointing the finger at Nadal since he had just played him but I guess both of them are likely suspects. This makes me think that Murray might actually be clean.

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    3. Becker is doing his gluten free man no favours by being so obvious.

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    4. As richard said, this is the same Becker who would run his mouth and openly name names as to whom he thought in tennis was doping - Muster being the most prominent example. But now he's pearl clutching about Murray's statements when Murray didn't even specifically name anyone in particular.

      Why is Becker getting so indignant if Murray didn't name names? Becker is telling on himself and Djokovic in a big way.

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    5. Becker is displaying an obvious Orwellian rhetoric on the non existence of doping in Tennis. Whether because of his standing in professional Tennis or that he's Djokovic's coach who knows. He's also suggesting Maria Sharpova's (a great ambassador for women's tennis according to him) defense is she tested positive because Meldonium was still leaving her system at the time of the testing...but her defense is she didn't get the memo and was unable to navigate a website to obtain the information so continued taking it. She would have been more specific if this was the case? but now it's all down to administrative practices and the poor players can't help it if they have to suddenly go cold turkey on their dope.

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  3. Murray's statements were hard core, and went further than the other leading men have. He's implying that he's been playing (and maybe losing to) dopers at the highest levels of the sport...

    He specifically mentioned 6 hour matches.. How many high profile 6 hour matches have we had in tennis???? Answer = very few. Is he perhaps thinking about Djokovic / Nadal?

    http://www.therichest.com/sports/tennis-sports/top-10-longest-tennis-matches-of-all-time/?view=all
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_tennis_match_records

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  4. This is a joke by Becker---right?!! Seriously, the top players are all clean & have always been clean?!! Here's what I think---Andy seems quite pissed right now, perhaps @ Djoker & Nadal the most b/c they seem to be the main players who have thwarted his hopes of winning way more slams & masters 1000s. Murray sounds so mad as if he's gonna reveal more than he should which is why Becker sounds like he's trying to appease Murray by saying Andy is 100% clean. How could Becker possibly know this anyway?!! Is he also claiming Djoker gets tested twice in slams?!! If this is true---than Novak has some serious masking agents which will never allow him to be caught!!! Tennis is getting more & more ridiculous by the minute!!!

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  5. I'd like to know when these comments were made to give this some context. Did he make this comments pre-Monte Carlo when asked about Sharapova, or post?

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    1. His comments were before his Monte Carlo match against Nadal. But it doesn't make much difference. Players who never tire and can play six hour matches are not exactly a new phenomenon. He couldn't have pointed his finger more directly at the top of the game.

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  6. 'It's a very dangerous subject.’

    'Andy is one of the fittest players on the tour – he often outlasts other players and nobody is questioning his ethics.'

    ‘to assume something because somebody has won a Grand Slam or is fitter I think is totally out of order.’

    When I read Becker's comments I see thinly veiled threats, weasel insinuations and an attempted character smear from one of the highest profile personalities in tennis. Dealing with this kind of sh1t, is exactly why clean players don't speak out. I'm not holding my breath, but he's left the door ajar, let's hope some journalists try to bust through it now. Seriously, he's done his bit, time for someone else in tennis to start backing him up now.

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    1. What any honest player coach, who is against doping and genuinely believes that their player is not doping, would say, is "Murray is right in that we need transparency and tough penalties. My player played a six hour match a few years ago showing relatively little tiredness, but as far as I know he has never doped. You can never be sure that top players aren't doping, but of course in sports in this day and age it's possible and some are tempted. But apart from all those already caught, I have never seen it nor heard of it, but we need to stay vigilant and make sure we catch anyone who does it no matter what their name is!!"

      But no, Becker makes UTTERLY RIDICULOUS statements about how every top player is 100% clean. Which is naive if you are talking about your local county junior tournaments, LET ALONE the top level for this sort of SERIOUS money.

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    2. you're absolutely right. Becker responded to Murray by defending Djokovic when he should have just assumed Murray was talking about someone else (ahem, I wonder who that could be?). And how he can say tennis is clean with a straight face when we know about bans that have taken place, is totally ridiculous. Or is he saying those bans were unfounded/unnecessary?

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  7. I can actually log on and post for the first time in months and months. My browser has somehow been fixed. Have been reading avidly in the meantime though.

    Yes, I have always had less suspicions about Murray than I have had Nadal or Djokovic. In fact apart from Murray's youthful, naive protests about the daily 1 hr window, he has since then woken up and consistently spoken about doping honestly. (i.e. the opposite of Nadal or Djokovic, who make excuses and repeat the same old "we get tested all the time", "go easy on players who refuse blood tests" nonsense.)

    And now, Murray specifically bringing up "6 hour matches" - yes, we all know full well which match he has in mind here! Played between the single two most suspicious players in the men's tour! (ok, along with David Ferrer.) This is an unmistakeable dig at both those players. I see no other way to interpret it. We all know they are both dopers too. So he is correct.

    Don't let Becker's defensive comments deter you, Murray. Becker is either hopelessly naive, or knows that Novak is on the juice. And we both know he isn't that naive. (Notice also that Novak stayed quiet, and they got Boris to comment instead.)

    You are on the right track Andy, keep up the subtle digs and do not let Becker deter you. He is scared, and his comments prove this. Unlike his player, you are willing to talk about doping openly, and advocate transparency and tougher penalties. What does Novak do? He says they already get tested too much and that Tipsarevic was a travesty of justice. If he says anything at all.

    Keep it up! Do not be deterred!

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    1. I meant Troicki of course, not Tipsarevic. Although wouldn't surprise me . Freudian slip?

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  8. It's clear what, and who these implications are directed at. It's also great to see Nadal win another title strictly because of his out of this world conditioning and inability to get tired.
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